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  • CornelP
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 745

    #1

    Same 30"cat, limited experience

    Hello there,
    I am new here and in this field generally, so be patient with me... I am building the 30"cat and I am looking for some info on the hardware to install. As you can see in the pics, I am almost finished. I started with hand cut balsa (lasercut had a crazy price...), CA in place, epoxy on the internals. The nose was filled with pool noodles, sealed shut. To make more room, I cut two of the sections, as I will cover in fiberglass or silkspan. The very tips of the nose were carved in balsa, as I did not manage to get the right curve .
    The main idea of the final shape is: F-14 Tomcat tribute! The profile is good enough, so I will go for a long canopy, as close as possible to the plane, a couple of the signature tails and a proper paint job ( F-14D Tomcat VF-31 Tomcatters). I usually do scale models (mainly aircraft), so this will be the easy job.
    The main problem is hardware: what would you recommend? This means motor, battery, esc, strut/rudder, etc. I was looking on a couple of websites for ideas, but I cannot find all the stuff in one place and with some decent prices... plus, as I live outside the US, I try to buy all in one place because of the transport fees...
    To get an idea on my experience, I completed a 1/10 Baby Bootlegger (Andy's one) and converted a px-16 on RC Groups. Both are brushed motors, Nimh, Futaba and Hitec systems.
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  • Norman2
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 321

    #2
    30" Cat

    Hi CornelP, I built a similar cat and use a UL-1 Brushless motor and ESC. I got
    these from Offshore Electrics. Hardware is from Offshore electrics. You can find
    a lot of information on 30" Cat builds in the thread titled 30" Scratch Built Cat.
    Hope this helps. Attached photo. Regards
    Norman2
    Attached Files
    34" Ekos Cat UL-1 Powered

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    • Jesse J
      scale FE racer
      • Aug 2008
      • 7116

      #3
      Welcome to the forum!

      This ought to be a cool build, like the tomcats too. there is a wide range of hardware, depending on how much you want to make yourself - Simon O is the master of "make my own hardware" - or you could spend over $150 on hardware if you want.

      Details you will need to provide to get useful feedback are:

      motor you want to run, dual/single, speeds - I assume sport
      batteries you want to use
      and any other set up ideas you have/ limitations economically etc. or components you want to use (i.e. is this a ground up hardware, motor/esc set up or do you already have a motor or other).
      "Look good doin' it"
      See the fleet

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      • CornelP
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 745

        #4
        Well, I was looking around a little bit, and I would be tempted by the solution that Norman2 went for (single motor). Definitely Brushless, Lipos, the strut I was looking at was this OSE http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...rod=tfl-502b15, as it comes with most of the necessary fittings... I have no clear idea on what components I need for such a setup, my previous experience was threaded plastic props, universal joints...
        I already made some hardware, but the strut was without bearings, just a 4mm ID aluminum tube with a Robbe flex shaft (see photo). Is there any Hardware for dummies shopping list / thread?
        Attached Files

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        • CornelP
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 745

          #5
          One more thing: budget will be around 150-200$ overall (I have the radio/servo)

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          • CornelP
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 745

            #6
            Ok guys, I got an idea for the home made hardware, see pics. Just a sketch for now, no dimensions, but I will come back later on with a proper drawing... I have no access to CNC or any fancy machinery, so it will be done by file, Dremel... the hard way. Water pickup will be done as in the previous post. Still waiting for ideas on motor/ESC/batteries
            The hull is getting fiberglassed today, so I will have the first pics up tomorrow.
            Attached Files

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            • Simon.O.
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2007
              • 1521

              #7
              Originally posted by CornelP
              Ok guys, I got an idea for the home made hardware, see pics. Just a sketch for now, no dimensions, but I will come back later on with a proper drawing... I have no access to CNC or any fancy machinery, so it will be done by file, Dremel... the hard way.
              For all of my builds the only power tools I use is a cordless drill and a cheap copy dremel. I do have a lot of good files and handsaws.
              I have a cheap 50W soldering iron for wire work and use a butane pencil torch for the bigger brass to brass work.

              Patience and time with hand tools will make some fantastic hardware.
              I am no master or even a craftsman but I have time to do it and am not keen to pay for postage of gear from overseas for things that I can make myself.
              See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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              • CornelP
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 745

                #8
                Well said!
                My humble opinion: THIS HOBBY IS ABOUT MAKING THINGS, NOT ASSEMBLING!:)

                PS: an assortment of VERY good glues helps a lot...

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                • CornelP
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 745

                  #9
                  I got a fantastic offer for a Feigao 540-10XL and I could not resist... so I have a starting point.

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                  • Eodman
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1253

                    #10
                    May I ask ... and by no means am I master builder, but is the water return the only thing on that strut?

                    If it is - have you considered attaching it the back of one of the sponsons and eliminating a little weight also a little less more drag! If you cut your brass tube on an angle you won't need to flare the end as you have!
                    We did it with a Bang!

                    Cats Are Where It's At!

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                    • CornelP
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 745

                      #11
                      Thought about it... will consider that. The flaring was a suggestion from somebody else, based on the fact it is placed in the spray.

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                      • CornelP
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 745

                        #12
                        Got some of the materials today. Will start fabricating the hardware... I also got a couple of TRex 4/7mm bearings. Is it worth installing them on the strut, instead of the brass bearing?

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                        • CornelP
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 745

                          #13
                          First pic after a polyester primer/filler... This will get sanded down almost to the fiber layer... it's a nightmare, but worth it
                          Canopy is on its way, had to blow up measurements from a Hasegawa kit I finished some time ago, so it should turn up quite accurate. I HATE carving in foam...
                          Attached Files

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                          • Eodman
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1253

                            #14
                            This going to be one nice looking cat when you're done! Wish I had the patience to scratch build!!!!!
                            We did it with a Bang!

                            Cats Are Where It's At!

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                            • CornelP
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 745

                              #15
                              Well, put it this way: no patience - minimum 200$ for a beautiful hull (in Europe); patience: 25$ to this stage...

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